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Old 07-31-2012, 05:29 AM   #1
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Default Genuine Volvo 240 Struts Inserts are Rebranded Monroe?

I'm replacing the strut inserts in a buddy's 240 and bought new Volvo units only to find that they are made by Monroe in Spain.
I don't see how these could be of the same quality that the old German inserts were that always seemed to last a long time.
I know that Monroe products are typically of a lower quality than I would expect to get from Volvo and I'm a bit leery about using them.

Does anyone have experience with these?
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:11 AM   #2
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I'm replacing the strut inserts in a buddy's 240 and bought new Volvo units only to find that they are made by Monroe in Spain.
I don't see how these could be of the same quality that the old German inserts were that always seemed to last a long time.
I know that Monroe products are typically of a lower quality than I would expect to get from Volvo and I'm a bit leery about using them.

Does anyone have experience with these?
I've never heard of this, but if they are monroes,

BE ADVISED:

Monroe inserts are garbage, no amount of volvo stickers will make them any better. Return them and pick up some billy's.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:07 AM   #3
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The spain manufactured Monroes are okay - OEM level strut that should last for years. If they were "made in mexico" those are the 3 month lifespan Monroes that you must run away from.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:30 PM   #4
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Volvo seems to be making an effort to continue to support their older models, but they also seem to be buying mid-grade aftermarket parts and branding them OE Volvo. I continue to buy OE parts, like a sucker, and lately I am getting stuff that looks identical to, or worse than, cheap aftermarket parts.

For instance, I bought new heater and radiator hoses recently, because the only aftermarket available locally was dirt cheap URO; the OE Volvo hoses look almost identical, except maybe thinner.
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:33 PM   #5
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I bought the Volvo struts for my 960 a few years ago, and they were labled Volvo, Monroe.
One strut busted in less than a year, got a free replacement from the local dealer. I though they were softer than what the 960's used before. They were cheap, very competitively priced,(cheaper from Volvo than from Monroe) but not very good quality, and they are the only choice for a late 960.
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Volvo seems to be making an effort to continue to support their older models, but they also seem to be buying mid-grade aftermarket parts and branding them OE Volvo. I continue to buy OE parts, like a sucker, and lately I am getting stuff that looks identical to, or worse than, cheap aftermarket parts.

For instance, I bought new heater and radiator hoses recently, because the only aftermarket available locally was dirt cheap URO; the OE Volvo hoses look almost identical, except maybe thinner.
Sounds isolated.... all of the Volvo bits I've been getting have been of the highest quality/fitment.

Agree on the Monroe: return and get Sachs/Boge for less.... Bil TC seems a better bet after I got a set of Sachs inserts with undersized gland nuts.

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Sounds isolated.... all of the Volvo bits I've been getting have been of the highest quality/fitment.

Agree on the Monroe: return and get Sachs/Boge for less.... Bil TC seems a better bet after I got a set of Sachs inserts with undersized gland nuts.

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Monroe makes the shocks for the 4C chassis on the Rs. Take that for what it's worth.
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:47 PM   #9
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I've never had OEM monroe on a 240, thought originals were boge but that doesn't mean they haven't changed to crap. As others have said return them and get a set of sachs/boge. Much better and cheap. I am limited to monroe OEM on my S90 front but that might change with some small mods.
It is unfortunate that the late models have monroes for the 4C setup.
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:46 PM   #10
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I've never had OEM monroe on a 240, thought originals were boge but that doesn't mean they haven't changed to crap. As others have said return them and get a set of sachs/boge. Much better and cheap. I am limited to monroe OEM on my S90 front but that might change with some small mods.
It is unfortunate that the late models have monroes for the 4C setup.
I had a set of the Monroe Gas-A-Just on my 245 when I got it, and they weren't that bad, (certainly better than KYB gas) but they are not the same as an OEM hydraulic shock, they are far better.

I got a set of new Monroe Gas-A-Just strut inserts for my '84 244 with the car, but haven't put them in yet. If I compare the compression/rebound by moving the piston on the Monroe Gas-A-Just vs the hydraulic 960 inserts, the Monroe Gas-A-Just are like Bil HD's by comparison.
Volvo has engineered the shocks to be soft and mushy on purpose, and as a result the spec'd shock made by Monroe has mediocre quality but offer a ride as soft as a baby's ass.
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:10 PM   #12
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How do we know what is genuine in the blue box? I'm paying too much for what should be OEM Volvo made in Sweden.
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Well unfortunately when it comes to the shocks the words Monroe and Volvo and Made in Spain are stamped into the shock tube.
There is no guessing, like brake discs that say Volvo Made in China, which was on my last purchase for an 06 S60 I was working on for a customer.
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The last parts I bought from volvo were trailing arm bushings, and they were made in WEST germany The Berlin wall came down in 89, can you say new old stock? I just hope the rubber didn't deteriorate in the packaging as it gathered dust on a shelf...
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:34 AM   #15
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FWIW. I talked with a buddy who works at the local dealer and he said some of the techs there had used them and had no complaints.

I figure I may as well put them in. I've had pretty crappy results out of the current crop of Sachs/Boge junk. One friend got less than a year from her made in Mexico junk.
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As long as your 240 is not lowered...If can't afford Konis or Billy HDs, try GABRIAL ULTRAS front & rear ULTRAS are cheap, stiff, and last pretty good for the $ spent, in my personal experience.

I have a set of rear used 1 year old ULTRAS shocks I'll sell you cheap. I removed them shortly after installed as I lowerd my 240.

Anything is better than Monroes, IMHO I've seen butter churns stiffer than Monroes.
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The spark plugs i bought from the dealer were from France and the rad hoses were from Germany. So far so good. The packaging on the plugs looked old school, so i am guessing NOS. I just wish my local dealer stocked more common items for the 240, so i wouldn`t have to wait two days every time i order parts.
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As long as your 240 is not lowered...If can't afford Konis or Billy HDs, try GABRIAL ULTRAS front & rear ULTRAS are cheap, stiff, and last pretty good for the $ spent, in my personal experience.

I have a set of rear used 1 year old ULTRAS shocks I'll sell you cheap. I removed them shortly after installed as I lowerd my 240.

Anything is better than Monroes, IMHO I've seen butter churns stiffer than Monroes.
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I've had 4c shocks crap out on some low mile cars. Most Monroe stuff past and present for most of the passenger cars I've worked on of all brands has been absolutely terrible for both ride control and quality.

Some of the later made in spain ones last more or less fine.

The original set of Sachs lasted almost 300k in the 90 245 and similarly long in a 240. I don't know if tokico still makes stuff for 240s, but for 240s and tons of other cars those have been wonderful. Dead reliable, reasonable price, good ride. Hit and miss with the kybs on the euro cars for whatever reason. I've been putting kybs in Hondas and toyotas for a long time, as has Honda and toyota usually 50-150k depending where and how it was driven with no super nasty surprises or failures.
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My KYBs handle fine: GR-2 front, Gas-A-Just rear (paired with IPD overload springs) (740). Both sets made in Japan. My long-time Volvo specialist shop uses KYB because they are reliable and handle reasonably (daily driving). Over 18 mo., no problems...
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The spark plugs i bought from the dealer were from France and the rad hoses were from Germany. So far so good. The packaging on the plugs looked old school, so i am guessing NOS. I just wish my local dealer stocked more common items for the 240, so i wouldn`t have to wait two days every time i order parts.
New OEM exhaust manifold nuts for redblocks are made in Taiwan nowadays, wouldn't be a surprise if there would be more similiar cases.

Hope the quality control works because if fasteners are made from inferior metal compounds it can have bad end results for example with suspension fasteners etc...
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Not suprising since volvo is owned by chinese now
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It's been posted before but I wonder about those Billy lookalikes from Estonia.Anyone try them?
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How do we know what is genuine in the blue box? I'm paying too much for what should be OEM Volvo made in Sweden.

Aside from the cars themselves, very little on a Volvo is (or was ever) made in Sweden.


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Not suprising since volvo is owned by chinese now

No need for a which hunt. Fasteners are made out of what they ought to be. Grade/class 8.8 or 10.9 means something. Some stuff comes out of the far East, but most of the genuine parts I've purchased have been made in Europe.

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As long as your 240 is not lowered...If can't afford Konis or Billy HDs, try GABRIAL ULTRAS front & rear ULTRAS are cheap, stiff, and last pretty good for the $ spent, in my personal experience.
I have a set of rear used 1 year old ULTRAS shocks I'll sell you cheap. I removed them shortly after installed as I lowerd my 240.
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