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240 Coilovers: The Kyote Way

fige said:
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and stock volvo strutmount...

The spacer shown in that picture..... I don't think that was in my kit I bought from the guy, or I forgot to install it. Does that go between the strut mount bearing and the tophat?
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What's the adjustment on this set up versus there short strut set up?
 
Z33_Taxi said:
What's the adjustment on this set up versus there short strut set up?
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IMO, the max lowering you can do on a factory length strut housing is about 2" lower. Beyond that you will be sacrificing compression travel and ride quality. Once the housings and dampers are shorter you can go beyond the 2" point and maintain good damper travel in both directions.
 
Mueller said:
Have you ever made a strut assembly that the spindle is adjustable up and down or just raised up?

http://www.elephantracing.com/suspension/coiloverkits/911coiloverkits.htm
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We designed some struts back in 2009 that had adjustable strut mountings. I think we produced one prototype set for our 850 racecar.
It was easy to make them for 2/7/9 as well.

Was no real point in competing with Ben's fancy struts at the time so the project was shelved.

Only pic I could find real quick is this partial pic from solidworks, sorry I couldn't find pics of the rest of it.

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Mueller said:
Have you ever made a strut assembly that the spindle is adjustable up and down or just raised up?

http://www.elephantracing.com/suspension/coiloverkits/911coiloverkits.htm
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BTW, that setup is not adjustable for spindle height... from what i see in the pic. The function of that part is the same as what you get with the QSRC i make.

It could easily be done, IMO its not beneficial enough to warrant the sacrafice in unsprung weight, stiffness penalty, and strength penalty of that design.

It's a way to make one part that works for a lot of applications but IMO its a huge compromise, Unsprung weight is highly critical and adding it without benefit is a mistake, imo...

I think the correct way to do it is to tailor each suspension setup to each car and the individuals needs.
 
blkaplan said:
BTW, that setup is not adjustable for spindle height... from what i see in the pic. The function of that part is the same as what you get with the QSRC i make.

It could easily be done, IMO its not beneficial enough to warrant the sacrafice in unsprung weight, stiffness penalty, and strength penalty of that design.

It's a way to make one part that works for a lot of applications but IMO its a huge compromise, Unsprung weight is highly critical and adding it without benefit is a mistake, imo...

I think the correct way to do it is to tailor each suspension setup to each car and the individuals needs.
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True, I meant to mention just the moving up on that particular unit.
 
Is anyone using a bump stop on the strut shaft?

I used some on a Renault I had years ago but cant see many generic ones on ebay.

cheers.
 
Rogue Status said:
Followed the Kyote Way and came up with these. Kaplhenke sleeves and spring hats, tubes shortened 2.75", Oldsmobile/Buick strut inserts (SUPER tight fit) and 8" 400/lb springs.

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How did Ben's top hat work with your struts? I have the same deal and I cant mount them due to the inner diameter of Ben's hat is approx 22mm and the strut shaft is approx EDIT:24mm. This is causing the plate not to slide down the strut shaft. Just curious on what you ended up doing to make this work....Bore the hole? let me know please. This is the last thing holding me up.
 
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mh... he could offer various bushings for all the shaft diameter out there.. or you just go to your buddy with a lathe and fab a bushing with 2.55 :)
 
MrBrown said:
Ben,
So what is it I am doing wrong? Does the spring seat not slide onto the strut shaft and then the camber plate?
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Based on the measurements just supplied to me in your email it looks like you need to open the hole to 24mm for the struts you are trying to use.
 
so the spring plate will slide all the way down the entire strut shaft to the body? I thought it rested on the edge.
 
MrBrown said:
so the spring plate will slide all the way down the entire strut shaft to the body? I thought it rested on the edge.
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Yes, if you don't have any spring installed they will slide all the way down. These float which is the reason they have a brass thrust washer.
 
so this is how it slides on:

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and not resting on the edge like this?:

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I may not be the smartest but that doesn't seem correct.
 
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