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240 Replacing blower fan in 1987 240 in Oregon

everyhumanvovo

everyhumanvovo

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Well, blower motor is squawking (though less than it was a year ago) and now sucking voltage (really worn?), so this needs to be done. Seeking recommendations in Eugene or as far as Portland area for best no hassle results. Also, is this a 6, 7, 8, 9 hour job and what is best estimate I can expect? I've heard a place in Vancouver does install a bit differently from the side or something, but also saw this place had mediocre, not so glowing reviews.

Also, I obtained new blower blades and the clips from IPD. IPD did not have Siemens fans, so have two Siemens made in Mexico and both are old new stock. Siemens was oem make if I remember right (started to plan for this a year ago). Do not recall, but I think what IPD had were less expensive make from China so opted to look for Siemens motor. Rather have replacement go for another quarter mill than 75,000.

I think I read the fan should be run a little before install. One of the two Siemens fans I have has a bent bracket that rings horizontally around motor - bent evenly along one side about 1/4" curled over about 1.5" in length - so not tweaked very much but still wondering how it happened - not sure if was dropped hard or what. It looks a little better than the other than the replacement which has a little surface corrosion on spindles. Suppose can test both before install. Or, if there is best option like a new stock Siemens that would cost a little more. Definitely, do not want the blower itself to be a dud - any advice or insights greatly appreciated. Thank you!!!
 
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While I can certainly understand why you'd want to pay someone to do this task, it is very time consuming and therefore expensive. With these old cars you really need to do a cost-benefit analysis. I replaced mine myself, and it was interesting. I removed the dash to allow greater access.

Here is a link on DIY dash removal:

http://cleanflametrap.com/dash.html

Be patient: it ain't rocket science, just many, many steps involved.
 
Give yourself some room, remove the front seats. No need to remove dash unless you really want to get in there.
 
Remove center console
Knock a hole in the passenger side housing
remove fan clip with booger pickers
remove clips from driver side housing
remove driver side fan + stuff in the way
wiggle motor out driver side, leaving pas side fan in housing
install new motor using booger pickers/screw driver to line up pas side fan with shaft
put clip back on without dropping it in housing
put all back like it was
duct tape hole knocked in pas side housing
done....two hours max
 
Asher can do them in 45 minutes with out hacking the passenger side or any other half assed short cuts like an amateur. He's in Portland. Expect to pay for his speed and knowledge. PM me your contact info and I'll see if I can hook you 2 up.
 
Tuff240 said:
Asher can do them in 45 minutes with out hacking the passenger side or any other half assed short cuts like an amateur. He's in Portland. Expect to pay for his speed and knowledge. PM me your contact info and I'll see if I can hook you 2 up.
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:bs:
:gtfo:

Nah just ****in with you.
I had the dash out of wifee's 245 last month.
One of the easiest dashes to R&I. Like 20 minutes and it's on the roof.

Most people are too scared...all the wires, but after a Mustang or Lincoln Continental, 240 dash is nothing.
 
gashog said:
:doh:
:bs:
:gtfo:

Nah just ****in with you.
I had the dash out of wifee's 245 last month.
One of the easiest dashes to R&I. Like 20 minutes and it's on the roof.

Most people are too scared...all the wires, but after a Mustang or Lincoln Continental, 240 dash is nothing.
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I don't believe the 45 minute estimate either. I think the record time is about 2 hours. It takes me 3X that.

And I have had the pleasure of doing a Thunderbird heater core job which is a mere 12 hours. It can be done in 6 if you know the tricks.
 
gashog said:
:doh:
:bs:
:gtfo:

Nah just ****in with you.
I had the dash out of wifee's 245 last month.
One of the easiest dashes to R&I. Like 20 minutes and it's on the roof.

Most people are too scared...all the wires, but after a Mustang or Lincoln Continental, 240 dash is nothing.
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Asher is really fast. He worked flat rate for a long time. He just did the last blower motor on a 245 he was flipping in 45 min. I think that was a new record for him. He's done a lot of them.

The 83-89 dashes are cake. I've swapped out a cracked one for an uncracked one start to finish in 30 minutes. Person was on their way to buy the car so I didn't have a choice. I don't usually like rushing like that. Hand held small electric screwdriver makes it a lot faster.
 
I don't think I can do one faster than a couple hours even hurrying a bit, which I don't like to do. Though I usually replace some light bulbs, test all the vacuum flaps, and maybe do the heater control valve. Examine the wiper linkage while you have it apart. Hand held little cordless screwdriver/gun and knowing where all the little bits go helps.


81-89 is a lot less of a pain than 90+ airbag/electrical everywhere nightmare relatively.
I hate 75-80 cars since I repaired a lot of those starting out and hope they all get crushed.

I like the fan job though, no fluids, not doing anything underneath the car. Just lots of wires. I hate being under the car or doing any heavy lifting.
 
Tuff240 said:
Asher is really fast. He worked flat rate for a long time. He just did the last blower motor on a 245 he was flipping in 45 min. I think that was a new record for him. He's done a lot of them.

The 83-89 dashes are cake. I've swapped out a cracked one for an uncracked one start to finish in 30 minutes. Person was on their way to buy the car so I didn't have a choice. I don't usually like rushing like that. Hand held small electric screwdriver makes it a lot faster.
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I'll send customers to him next time.
 
Being able to roll a tool cart over with everything already layed out.
Knowing where and what fasteners to remove in what order.
Knowing what you can leave dangling and what needs to just come right out.

These are the things you get good at, doing it every day for flat rate.

Back in the day, I could pull in an A3 Jetta and have the transmission on the bench in 20 minutes.
....Off mah LAWN!! :tehdon:
 
gashog said:
Back in the day,...Jetta and have the transmission on the bench in 20 minutes.
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Back in the days of VW air cooled engines, the engine could be pulled, overhauled, and placed back in vehicle within several hours, at an equipped shop.
 
87 is one of the easier ones. Airbag cars are a bit harder. 2 hours is real. I used to do them on a weekly basis. No need to take seats or dashes out. It's about technique. Everything has a method and you need to find yours. Holesaw method is the most ridiculous thing I've seen in my 20 years doing this as a living.
 
Been putting up with a noise blower motor for 3 years or more in my 87. Maybe this will be the year since I need to change the cracked dash again and change the radio.
 
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