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thick boy wheels, worth the hassle?

spock345 said:
Front is probably going to be the most important. Really the central idea is to treat wheels, brakes, and suspension as something that has to work together as a system.
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understood. i’ll do some more digging. really wanting BNE suspension components with r888 toyotires, so i’ll probably end up making a new thread with the conclusions i’ve come to after a bit.
 
I've been pleasantly surprised at how long the stock rear axle has been hanging on in my turbo "LS" (aluminum truck LH8 5.3) swapped 240. Granted, it's just 225 width tires, and for a long while is had somewhat aged (but still pretty sticky) Toyo T1R's. I did just put a set of Falken RT660's on it which have a lot more grip. We'll see how long the axle survives now.
 
fatcatbestcat said:
Don't forget that massive tires and big grip is just going to lead to breaking things further down the driveline. I forgot if you've mentioned prior, but are you going to keep the stock rear end with the "LS2" (inevitably probably a truck 5.3) swap you plan on doing?
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stock rear end with truetrac diff. when it inevitably breaks, i’ll throw in a ford 8.8. also, it’s an l96 evidently. it was pulled out of a c6 (guy is a buddy of mine and was putting in something else, which is why i got such a good deal on it), but whoever had it before threw in the iron block instead of the stock motor. still a 6.0 tho !
 
JohnMc said:
I've been pleasantly surprised at how long the stock rear axle has been hanging on in my turbo "LS" (aluminum truck LH8 5.3) swapped 240. Granted, it's just 225 width tires, and for a long while is had somewhat aged (but still pretty sticky) Toyo T1R's. I did just put a set of Falken RT660's on it which have a lot more grip. We'll see how long the axle survives now.
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225's might be the answer, I'm onto my 4th stock rear end in my car (when they break, they really break). I'm on 235's, sticky compound. (2) have broken at Sonoma drags, and (1) on the street. To the OP, it's kinda nice having a fuse be the tires and not something else.
 
stevE85 said:
225's might be the answer, I'm onto my 4th stock rear end in my car (when they break, they really break). I'm on 235's, sticky compound. (2) have broken at Sonoma drags, and (1) on the street. To the OP, it's kinda nice having a fuse be the tires and not something else.
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good to note, appreciate it!
 
stevE85 said:
225's might be the answer, I'm onto my 4th stock rear end in my car (when they break, they really break). I'm on 235's, sticky compound. (2) have broken at Sonoma drags, and (1) on the street. To the OP, it's kinda nice having a fuse be the tires and not something else.
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If you want to go that fast you need an 8.8. Especially if drag racing is your thing.

The stock 103x axles are good enough for street and road race on turbo cars and plenty of folks have V8’s with stock axles and have had no real problems.
 
FWIW I've NOT been launching it hard on the new sticky ("200TW", but they're in that autocross class cheater category), just under speculation that it would break something.
 
HiSPL said:
The stock 103x axles are good enough for street and road race on turbo cars and plenty of folks have V8’s with stock axles and have had no real problems.
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exactly the goal. hoping the truetrac is gonna be all i need to do to the rear end (with how i drive, probably not).
 
JohnMc said:
I have a Ford 8.8 modified and ready to go in, sitting in the garage. But I was going to have it rebuilt and put a torsen in it first. Don't want to get rushed into doing it.
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Same, everytime mine breaks I tell myself I'll swap to the 8.8 I have for it, but I'm a gluten for punishment apparently. In the process I've found that the 3.73 rear end gear ratio makes the center last longer but the axles break faster, and the 3.31 ratio grenades the center before the axles. I am now onto a 3.54 gear maybe it will be the best blend of strength (carrier/axles). :x: FWIW, I've also broken (2) DS axles along the way. Not sure why the DS breaks first every time tho. I feel that a strong rear axle is a MUST if you plan on abusing the combo much. If you're more mild mannered in your driving I can see the stock lasting for a long time.
 
i found the crush sleeve is one of the reasons for the pinion and ring gear exploding. so far my 1031s have been perfect in both of my cars around the 300ish hp range. the 8.8 in my turbo ls swapped 244 has held up but funny enough ive broken a axle in that one doing stupid crap
 
Simple answer, no. You still haven't figured out what you want out of this car. There is no all purpose car, unless, you have a Porsche GT3 RS budget. A 240 is NOT going to be a comfortable street car if it is set up for the track and is not going to be a track worthy car if it is set up for the street. It's all in your imagination that it can be both. I guess if you want to build a carbon fiber 240 body and re-skin a GT3 RS so it looks like a 240 you can have both. Spacers are bad news on a street car. They are a horrible choice for a track car with sticky tires.
 
2manyturbos said:
Simple answer, no. You still haven't figured out what you want out of this car. There is no all purpose car, unless, you have a Porsche GT3 RS budget. A 240 is NOT going to be a comfortable street car if it is set up for the track and is not going to be a track worthy car if it is set up for the street. It's all in your imagination that it can be both. I guess if you want to build a carbon fiber 240 body and re-skin a GT3 RS so it looks like a 240 you can have both. Spacers are bad news on a street car. They are a horrible choice for a track car with sticky tires.
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Agree with it all except spacers

People run spacers in the Baja races without issues
 
2manyturbos said:
Simple answer, no. You still haven't figured out what you want out of this car. There is no all purpose car, unless, you have a Porsche GT3 RS budget. A 240 is NOT going to be a comfortable street car if it is set up for the track and is not going to be a track worthy car if it is set up for the street. It's all in your imagination that it can be both. I guess if you want to build a carbon fiber 240 body and re-skin a GT3 RS so it looks like a 240 you can have both. Spacers are bad news on a street car. They are a horrible choice for a track car with sticky tires.
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a summary of what everyone else said.

Jack said:
Agree with it all except spacers

People run spacers in the Baja races without issues
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even with wheels that’ll fit the wheel well without any modification are gonna need spacer as far as what i’m seeing (if you have any recommendations please throw them my way)
 
Jack said:
Agree with it all except spacers

People run spacers in the Baja races without issues
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Not without issues. People run spacers because they aren't building their vehicle from scratch. You end up with 2 sets of fasteners and a piece of aluminum taking an incredible load it was never intended to carry. Way too many means for a failure.
 
2manyturbos said:
Not without issues. People run spacers because they aren't building their vehicle from scratch. You end up with 2 sets of fasteners and a piece of aluminum taking an incredible load it was never intended to carry. Way too many means for a failure.
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what would you recommend for thicker wheels? less offset?
 
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