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Volvo 240 TDI swap

Anything is possible. The transmission bellhousings they used on D24 cars actually share the bolt pattern with a lot of 80s/90s VW engines, so it's theoretically possible to bolt up a D525 (Audi 5 cylinder TDI) or a 1.9 TDI to one.
 
fatcatbestcat said:
Anything is possible. The transmission bellhousings they used on D24 cars actually share the bolt pattern with a lot of 80s/90s VW engines, so it's theoretically possible to bolt up a D525 (Audi 5 cylinder TDI) or a 1.9 TDI to one.
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Doesn't the 1.9 only have 67 horsepower and about 100 ft/trq?
 
Pietercc said:
Doesn't the 1.9 only have 67 horsepower and about 100 ft/trq?
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The early generations, yea. But the later gen motors had significantly more power.
This is a super common swap in the Toyota community with a lot of guys opting for the AHU gen motor because it's got a lot more power stock and can handle bigger turbo, injectors etc before needing new rods.
Guys with this swap are still getting 30-40 mpg on 35s or 37s which is pretty nutty
 
Erik McMahon said:
anyone put a volkswagen TDI in a brick? I'm curious if it's possible
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yes

240 Wagon - VW TDI inside

Started this project of building a daily/roadtrip car in January of this year. I wanted to combine the awesome practicality of a 240 with the economy of a VW TDI engine. I started with a 98 Jetta (AHU TDI) and a '90 245. I found both cars in CT, for $500 and $400 respectively. The jetta ran and...
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fatcatbestcat said:
it's theoretically possible to bolt up a D525 (Audi 5 cylinder TDI) or a 1.9 TDI to one.
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^^ not quite correct. The 4cyl VW engine architecture uses a completely different bell pattern than the 5cyl. The 5cyl shares with the 6cyl (D24/T) that came in RWD diesel Volvos, so it is true you can use D24 parts to bolt a 5cyl TD or TDI in. Never had those available in North America though. For the 4cyl VW diesels (1.6, 1.9, 2.0) that were common here in the US, you have no RWD trans options factory fit in Volvos so you're on your own for the trans setup. Have to either do a homebrew adapter like the build linked above, or use a different trans that has adapter plate support. Common choice there is the Toyota W56 or R150 platforms. But there are GM, Ford, Nissan choices also. Look here for some examples. https://tdconversions.com/collections/volkswagen-kits

TBH, for the cost and effort of dropping a 1.9 TDI in using an adapter you have to buy or build (and possibly adapting a different trans too), you're better off with a factory style D24T swap. D24T has similar power to the 1.9 TDI but bolts in, runs far quieter and smoother than the TDI, and is great to drive.

If you have to have a TDI, the 2.5TDI 5cyl is a great engine as well, less smooth than D24T but smoother than a 4 banger. There are importers that bring them in from overseas. Expensive to buy upfront, but then the project is easy from there since it's all factory D24 parts to bolt it in, other than motor mounts which you will have to homebrew.
 
240 240 said:
yes, but what is the reason?
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Ever been behind the wheel of a TDI powered car?

Power, performance, durability, and 45 mpg are addictive. Once you are used to driving one it's hard to tolerate anything else.

A friend of mine describes driving a TDI as a "cheat code". There is no downside.
 
v8volvo said:
Ever been behind the wheel of a TDI powered car?
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yes.
v8volvo said:
Power, performance, durability, and 45 mpg are addictive. Once you are used to driving one it's hard to tolerate anything else.
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They are great engines....(in a vw)
But what is the reason for OP to do this?
What experience does op have with Volvos and VW?

If the swap is solely for mpg, The amount of miles needing to be driven to break even on $ is a huge amount of driving.
 
Maybe the fact that not everyone who likes Volvos is a fan of redblock engines.

Why do you see Volvos with so many different interesting engine swaps? Ford V8s, GM V8s, GM V6s, BMW inlines, 2JZ, diesels, whiteblock Volvo engines...... Many of us see RWD Volvos as great platforms that could be improved with something else under the hood. For some a TDI is the dream engine for a Volvo build. I can understand that, having put hundreds of thousands of miles on them and swapped them into various other rigs.

None of us are "breaking even" on these old car hobbies no matter what we do, but some of us just don't like pouring away money into the gas tank. I don't think the question was whether it would be the most financially advisable possible course of action, in terms of whether it'd save the OP money. Buying a new Civic and driving it for the next 30 years is the only vehicle choice that actually makes financial sense.... Right? Everything else is just a question of how you like to roll. :)
 
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Volvo 240 Om606 "Superturbo", Nurmijärvi | Huutokaupat.com

Huutokaupat.com myy toimeksiantona yksityishenkilön ajoneuvon. Nyt sinäkin voit myydä autosi meillä, lue lisää sivulta: huutokaupat.com/kuluttajat-autohuutokauppa Siitä hieman ripeämpi Volvon pitkäkatto asiasta ymmärtävälle. Moottori: Moottorina Mersun 3 litrainen OM606, Pumppu mynä...
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You don't have five cylinder TDI in USA? How about Mercedes?
 
When I went to L A for technical/ new product training for the D24, the only thing we knew was that it was a diesel. When we finally got to see it, a very observant person noticed the rings cast on the side of the block and asked about them. The instructor was was quick to reply that Volvo was recognizing that the Olympics were coming to LA.
 
OttoB said:
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Volvo 240 Om606 "Superturbo", Nurmijärvi | Huutokaupat.com

Huutokaupat.com myy toimeksiantona yksityishenkilön ajoneuvon. Nyt sinäkin voit myydä autosi meillä, lue lisää sivulta: huutokaupat.com/kuluttajat-autohuutokauppa Siitä hieman ripeämpi Volvon pitkäkatto asiasta ymmärtävälle. Moottori: Moottorina Mersun 3 litrainen OM606, Pumppu mynä...
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You don't have five cylinder TDI in USA? How about Mercedes?
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No, sadly never got it. We got a 2.0 IDI turbo 5 cyl in the 1983 Audi 5000 TD, that was the end of it. Canada got some non turbo IDI 2.4L 5cyl diesels in the Eurovan/Transporters but those never came down south of the border.

There are a few folks who are importing the 5cyl TDI. Great engines.

We did get plenty of Mercedes including the OM606 used by Cosby plus the OM647/648 inline CDI 5cyl and 6cyl. All great engines as well but much more serious work to install.
 
v8volvo said:
No, sadly never got it. We got a 2.0 IDI turbo 5 cyl in the 1983 Audi 5000 TD, that was the end of it. Canada got some non turbo IDI 2.4L 5cyl diesels in the Eurovan/Transporters but those never came down south of the border.

There are a few folks who are importing the 5cyl TDI. Great engines.

We did get plenty of Mercedes including the OM606 used by Cosby plus the OM647/648 inline CDI 5cyl and 6cyl. All great engines as well but much more serious work to install.
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In Finland we got five cylinder D20 in 240, which is actually same engine as D24 minus one pot. Not so common. Later white block D5 engines are coming more common swap nowdays in RWD Volvos, organ donors are dirt cheap. Price of a running V70 D5 car is a few hundred euros.
 
Erik McMahon said:
anyone put a volkswagen TDI in a brick? I'm curious if it's possible
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9 series brick, with TDI motivation:

White 940 2.5TDI wagon

This is my second "dream" project that itched me a long time. Other than building a low and classy cruiser 244, I often played with an idea of building a 7 series wagon aswell. I did not have any exact plans what engine and trans it should have, but after i started using brownie with B230F/M47...
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