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XC70 Seats in a 240? No problemo.

FezMonki

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So after stealing a lot of info off tbricks, I finally have something to give.

I had looked at some threads on here about seat alternatives for comfort (and to stop my floor from looking like I'm eating crackers 24/7). A couple months ago I happened upon a 2005 or so XC70 at the junkyard, and since I knew it has some god damn comfy seats I immediately separated the front two from the car and stashed them in my garage. With talk of fabrication, welding etc in those threads, I woke up today and went to the car shop prepared for mayhem since I really suck at metal working.

Turns out two hours later the seats were firmly bolted down in the car with just a little angle grinder massaging. Yes, my bread loaf cracked armrest is beautiful and it knows it. I know it matches the interior beautifully.
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Quick guide:
1. Flip your (240) driver side seat over, unbolt the 4 golden side bolts. Get the rails out. Destroy everything seat height related.
2. Remove XC70 rails by removing the 4 torx nuts INSIDE not the ones outside. Cut all the zipties holding cables, and bolt off safety belt thinghy beforehand, or regret later. Throw the rails away.
3. Grind this welded nut off the front of the 240 rails, both sides.
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4. Cut this height regulator guide tubing at about the same width as the welded nut, then give both a final massage, not too much. Cut that notch. Hammer that sheet metal exactly so, or you will regret later. Both sides.
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5. Check fitment.
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6. With the rails on the seat, and all 4 holes matching up with the XC seat ones, use two of the original XC short torx nuts to bolt the rear on, from the inside out (this is why we hammered the sheet metal).
7. If front nuts you grinded off left a slightly tight hole, enlargen with size M10 drill bit. Then use M10 bolts and nuts to secure the front.
8. Zip tie the cables out of the way, getting everything to work is a project for another day.
9. Do the same with the passenger seat, except its even easier, and you don't need to grind anything off. Just use the 4 original XC bolts inside out and you are done.
10. Enjoy seats ten times more comfortable than the original ones, and that don't give you up like Rick Astley when you doing them fast turns. And less creaky center console because not getting raped by seats anymore:
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- I have no idea if this applies to V70, S60, S80 seats of the same years as well. If you can find out if front seats can be swapped between the XC70 and these cars, it probably does.
- You will be sitting higher in the car. I personally like it, and I'm almost 2 meters tall and am still 5-7 cm away from the roof, so no issue there. I like the higher position. Also its not bothering my knee-wheel equilibrium that I care so much about, although I am running a smaller momo wheel.
- I will eventually wire up the heating, and find newer volvo seatbelt latches so I can use these new buckles. The old ones now flop to the ground because the seat isn't supporting them anymore. Zipties seem like the obvious answer.

I hope it helps someone, now bask in the light of my new hid's with inverted daylight-indicator led lights (I hated the daylights on top):
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Good info! I just drove from Fort Lauderdale to Philadelphia and back in an 87 and the whole ride home all I thought about was finding new seats. The only thing that bothers me is giving up the iconic looking headrests.

So what year is your 240 or are all of them the same in terms of seat mounts? And you mentioned the seating position is higher- relative to what, the seats in my car now (from an 86 I believe) have 3 position height adjustment. Any height adjustment on the XC70 seats?

I have one of those blink mirrors that the ricer kids use and I love it, but sitting up too high really puts the thing in the way of seeing any traffic signals.
 
240's are all then same when it comes to seat mounts.

I've been hunting for new seats for a while now. I'm 6'-4" and all leg. so I've modified to the stock slider to let me move back about 1.5" more then OE but I still need to go back about another 1.5" to be really cumfy. Do these seat sit farther back on the rails than the 240 ones?

The other issue is height. being taller would be a problem cause even in the lowest adjuster position i only have 2-3" of head room.

#tallpersonproblems
 
I don't know if it matters but I do know there's a year break between 04 and 05, where 01-04 V70/S60 seats are all cross compatible, and 05-07 V70, and 05-09 S60 seats are all cross compatible. So for anyone looking to copy you then 05 up should work the same.

Also go shop for some sport seats from the T5 models, they have better bolstering:

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One potential bummer I found as I look for a set in the US is that they all seem to be power (we may not have gotten a manual drivers seat on any trim level of XC70 / S60, same as the earlier 850's).

Not really a deal breaker if it is a straightforward hook up. Anyone know if the power seats have their own module somewhere else in the car or worse, are dependent on some other body control module or another?
 
Good info! I just drove from Fort Lauderdale to Philadelphia and back in an 87 and the whole ride home all I thought about was finding new seats. The only thing that bothers me is giving up the iconic looking headrests.

So what year is your 240 or are all of them the same in terms of seat mounts? And you mentioned the seating position is higher- relative to what, the seats in my car now (from an 86 I believe) have 3 position height adjustment. Any height adjustment on the XC70 seats?

I have one of those blink mirrors that the ricer kids use and I love it, but sitting up too high really puts the thing in the way of seeing any traffic signals.

Adjustment on the xc70 seats is roughly the same as 240, but front and back perhaps can be adjusted a bit more. Also it can be done while normally driving instead of having to almost get out of the car lol. The seats are a couple cm taller from the base of the car compared to 240 seats, not tons but immediately noticeable. I am 6'-4' and I am not disturbed, actually prefer it. But it does loose that "race car cockpit feel".

240's are all then same when it comes to seat mounts.

I've been hunting for new seats for a while now. I'm 6'-4" and all leg. so I've modified to the stock slider to let me move back about 1.5" more then OE but I still need to go back about another 1.5" to be really cumfy. Do these seat sit farther back on the rails than the 240 ones?

The other issue is height. being taller would be a problem cause even in the lowest adjuster position i only have 2-3" of head room.

#tallpersonproblems

I am also 6'-4' and have been enjoying them thoroughly. It is an inch nearer to the roof but I don't dislike it at all. I also tend to drive slouched with the rear adjustment all down, the front adjustment all up and the back bent toward the rear, so that might be it.

I don't know if it matters but I do know there's a year break between 04 and 05, where 01-04 V70/S60 seats are all cross compatible, and 05-07 V70, and 05-09 S60 seats are all cross compatible. So for anyone looking to copy you then 05 up should work the same.

Also go shop for some sport seats from the T5 models, they have better bolstering:

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I am not 100% the car is 2005, might be older.

One potential bummer I found as I look for a set in the US is that they all seem to be power (we may not have gotten a manual drivers seat on any trim level of XC70 / S60, same as the earlier 850's).

Not really a deal breaker if it is a straightforward hook up. Anyone know if the power seats have their own module somewhere else in the car or worse, are dependent on some other body control module or another?

I think you just need to give them 12v. Tbh, you can probably still swap them, ditch the power rails and keep the rest of the power adjustments, but I can't vouch for it. I don't know if the motors are attached to the rails or the seat, that's the unknown.
 
Nice swap!

In Europe one can get full manual seats in V70. XC70 too.

Good to know it fits so nicely.

Now I want to swap 2008+ V70 seats with ventilation. Nice for a 240 without A/C, makes a big difference in the V70 as well. Downside is that those sears probably weight significantly more than the 850 seats I am using now. And not so cheap at the JY.
 
Very nice write-up on the XC seat swap. Thanks FezMonki!

I'm reading the info about the year break at 2004/2005 and wondering if that also applied to S80 seats, and if XC70 seat mounts and plug hookups are the same between S60's and S80's?

My 2004 S80 has very comfortable seats, but my driver's seat controls don't seem to want to work consistently. I've tried swapping in two other seat control units with the same results, so I'm thinking it's not just control based. Given that there's many more S60's than S80's in the yards, and the possibility of picking up some S60 T5 seats, this thread has me looking into an S60 seat swap.
 
Great work! I've had similar plans, but other than worrying about the fit, I have two considerations of which one is mentioned already:
1) The iconic headrests (75-85)! I want to keep them. They are easily removed from the original seats. The question is, is the distance between the two bars exactly the same as on the V/XC70 and are the diameters the same? Probably not, but it should be able to fix some adapter with some simple welding.
2) Foldable seats for 242s. This is from my memory, correct me if I'm wrong: The great thing about the XC70 seats is the possibility to fold the passenger seat (and maybe even the driver seat) fully forward, probably to be able to transport long stuff. The problem is that you have to push two small levers on each side near the floor on the back of the seat simultaneously. Maybe you could weld some bar between the two levers, making it easy to push them down when you're outside of the car.
 
nice seats! ,

for 140 serie cars you can do similar. i had a set of S80 seats in my 144. now they are in my dads 145 . sit perfectly and are not very expensive.

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Well that's a fairly important bit of info for anyone trying to do the same thing.

I know, unfortunately I had no way of telling at the time, unless I looked up the VIN, but at the time I didn't know it was relevant info. I guess if my life depended on it, I'd say pre 2005.
 
I realized this is a super old post. Has anyone figured out whether the seat is from 2004 and older or 2005 and newer? Appreciate it.
 
Look at the interior photos on these various auction listings:


Looks like there are two seat types, one with the "C" shaped panel at the front of the seat, and a sportier type with a more rectangular panel up front and more side panels. They look the same from on top in both year ranges. OP used the non-sport seats. Seats should interchange between models of that year excepting possibly the XC90.

Beyond that... here are the exploded diagrams for early and late seats. Maybe you can figure out which one OP used from these, I am not having much luck. I suspect the early seats since they seem to have a flat base plate between the seat bottom and the rails?

Early:

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Late:

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Remember to disconnect the battery (if present) and allow system to drain for 5 minutes before removing any front seat as they contain side impact airbags. Likewise be very careful when connecting power seats as if you apply voltage to the airbag you can set it off, possibly injuring yourself and definitely damaging the seat.
 
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